Planning Board Minutes
Agenda Date: 
07/02/2012 - 12:00am
Agenda Category: 
Planning Board

The July meeting of the Planning Board of the Town of Van Buren, held at the Town building, 7575 Van Buren Road, Baldwinsville, New York, was called to order at 7:00 p.m.

 

Those present joined in the Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.

 

Roll Call:         Harold Crandon                      present

                        James Virginia             present

                        James Ruddock                       present

                        Eric Knapp                              present

                        Fred Thomas                           present

                        Lars Lindeqvist                       present

                        Anthony Geiss, Chairman       present

 

Also Present:   Melissa MacConaghy, Planning Board Secretary

                        Ted Spencer, Attorney

                        Jason Hoy, Engineer

  MINUTES

Mr. Geiss asked the board to accept the June meeting minutes upon correction. 

Mr. Crandon moved to accept and seconded by Mr. Knapp.    

    HOURIGAN FARMS OF ELBRIDGE

7320 Kingdom Road Tax Map ID # 45.0-3-10 & 45.0-3-06

 

Mr. Joshua Werbeck was present to address the Board.

 

Mr. Werbeck stated this map is slightly different from the previous one.

Mr. Werbeck stated two months ago at the last Planning Board meeting when we presented this initial project, which is to expand one parcel that is on three sides encompassed by another parcel which is owned by the same people.  On the fourth side it is a public road.

Mr. Werbeck stated we want to make the smaller parcel bigger so expand it into the larger parcel.

Mr. Werbeck stated the concerns of the Board were that there is a small barn in the corner of the property that would require a variance.

Mr. Werbeck stated so we have now changed the map to give 15 feet setback on every side of every structure. 

 

Mr. Geiss stated you also requested to forego a formal public hearing.

Mr. Werbeck stated I wrote to you.

Mr. Geiss asked why are you asking for that ?

Mr. Werbeck stated it is simply a time issue. 

Mr. Geiss stated that it is an option being that this is a minor subdivision however we have been calling public hearings for minor and major subdivisions. 

Mr. Geiss stated the timing issue that you reference, we have to send this to County Planning anyway therefore we can not do anything with this, this month on a decision.

Mr. Geiss stated we can call a public hearing and hold the public hearing next month and issue a decision next month. 

Mr. Geiss stated when we call the public hearing we would like a map.

Mr. Werbeck stated I can bring a blown up copy of the tax map.

Mr. Geiss stated a blown up copy of the tax map is what we need to show the whole parcel. 

 

Motion        Mr. Geiss asked the Board to entertain a motion to declare the Town of Van Buren Planning Board as lead agency as single agency uncoordinated review for the unlisted action under SEQR for the Hourigan Farms subdivision at 7320 Kingdom Road tax map ID # 45.0-3-10 and 45.0-3-06.  This is a subdivision of a single lot off of a large farm parcel.  Mr. Thomas moved to accept the motion, seconded by Mr. Ruddock.  Motion carried unanimously. 

 

Motion        Mr. Geiss asked the Board to entertain a motion to call a public hearing for Hourigan Farms of Elbridge Subdivision for August 6th at 7:05 pm.  Mr. Ruddock moved to accept the motion, seconded by Mr. Crandon.  Motion carried unanimously. 

 

Motion         Mr. Geiss asked the Board to entertain a motion to submit the Hourigan Farms of Elbridge subdivision to Onondaga County Planning for their review.  Mr. Ruddock moved to accept the motion, seconded by Mr. Knapp.  Motion carried unanimously. 

  Mr. Geiss stated we are adjourning our meeting so we can call a public hearing for Arrow Fence . 

Mr. Geiss called the public hearing for Arrow Fence at 7784 Route 31 West tax map parcel ID # 33-02-05.  

 

Mr. Kiselica was present to address the Board. 

Mr. Kiselica stated this is currently Arrow Fence property outlined here.

Mr. Kiselica stated I would like to take this small square out of the residential and move it to the local business for the use of Arrow Fence. 

Mr. Geiss stated lot 1A is 22,308 square feet, correct.

Mr. Kiselica that is correct.

Mr. Geiss asked is lot 2 the 123,707?

Mr. Kiselica stated yes it is.

Mr. Geiss stated so together this is about 146,000 square feet.

Mr. Kiselica stated yes.

Mr. Geiss stated and you are submitting to the Town Board the zone change for lot 1A to local business.

Mr. Kiselica stated that is correct.

 

Mr. Geiss asked is there anyone that would like to speak to this subdivision either for or against?

 

No one spoke either for or against.

  

Motion            Mr. Geiss asked the Board to entertain a motion to close the public hearing. 

Mr. Thomas moved to accept the motion, seconded by Mr. Crandon.  Motion carried unanimously. 

 

Mr. Geiss stated the Planning Board is back in session.

   ARROW FENCE SUBDIVISION

7784 Route 31 West Tax Map ID # 33-02-05 & 33-02-07.1

 

Mr. Geiss reviewed the County comments with the applicant.

 

Mr. Geiss stated the one or two comments that have developed out of this is one that there will be no access onto East Dead Creek Road through lot # 2. 

Mr. Geiss stated also you have a zone change pending.  We will have to qualify our approval here that no plans will be signed until you get the zone change completed with the Town Board.

  

Motion                Mr. Geiss asked the board to entertain a motion in regards to SEQR for the Arrow Fence Subdivision at 7784 Route 31 West tax map ID# 33-02-05 as being a subdivision of lot 1A which is a land lock parcel at 22,308 square feet off of a larger residential lot which totaled approximately 146,000 square feet.  Lot 1A will then be reattached to lot 1 which is a local business which is 104,727 square feet.  There is no adverse environmental impact with regard to this subdivision.  Mr. Crandon moved to accept the motion, seconded by Mr. Ruddock.  Motion carried unanimously.

 

Motion                 Mr. Geiss asked the board to entertain a motion to approve the subdivision for Arrow Fence at 7784 Route 31 West tax map ID # 33-02-05 with regard to the map that was submitted by the applicant which was dated May 26, 2012 with latest revision of June 6, 2012.

With the following conditions that the applicant has applied to the Town Board for a zone change so that the land lock parcel which is being attached to the existing lot 1 will be changed from residential to local business so that it can be all part to the local business which is what lot 1 is utilized as.  Another condition would be that there will be no access through lot # 2 or the remaining residential property to East Dead Creek Road from the local business that has access off of Route 31 West.  Mr. Thomas moved to accept the motion, seconded by Mr. Virginia. 

 

ROLL CALL VOTE:               Aye              Nay          Other

James Virginia                 

Fred Thomas                               

Eric Knapp                                  

Harold Crandon                          

Jim Ruddock                               

Lars Lindeqvist                           

Tony Geiss-Chairman                  

 

Motion            Mr. Geiss asked the Board to entertain a motion to send a positive recommendation to the Town Board regarding the Arrow Fence subdivision.  Mr. Virginia moved to accept the motion, seconded by Mr. Thomas.

 

ROLL CALL VOTE:         Aye        Nay          Other

James Virginia                        

Fred Thomas                           

Eric Knapp                              

Harold Crandon                      

Jim Ruddock                           

Lars Lindeqvist                        

Tony Geiss-Chairman             

     

 DONE WELL TRAILER AND BODY SITE PLAN

7025 Van Buren Road Tax Map ID# 057-01-04.5

 

Mr. Jason Kantak was present to address the Board. 

 

Mr. Kantak stated we did the original design when the original property was owned by Joe Ragonese. 

Mr. Kantak stated the applicant would like to put a 7,200 square foot building expansion on the back, the west side of the property.  Their business is doing well and they need more storage for truck repairs.  

Mr. Kantak stated this design is consistent with the current use and it was originally zoned PUD

with the requirements that we had down on this table on the bottom right.  All of these meet those criteria.

Mr. Kantak stated with me today is Mr. Dave Hardy.

Mr. Hardy will be doing all the building construction.

 

Mr. Geiss asked the area where you are putting the building is what?

Mr. Kantak stated the area is currently all gravel parking lot, we would be swapping out gravel for part service.

Mr. Geiss asked we do not need anything with stormwater?

Mr. Jason Hoy stated that is correct.

Mr. Geiss stated there will not be a variance required.

Mr. Kantak stated that is my understanding.

Mr. Geiss asked is the parking area changing at all?

Mr. Kantak stated no it is not.

Mr. Ruddock asked is there a reason why the buildings are only 10 feet apart?

 

Mr. Dave Hardy is present to address the Board.

 

Mr. Hardy stated originally they thought they were getting closer to wet land.  Therefore the building did get moved to the west side.  One of the problems with the lot is it gets really tight in this area when you are swinging tractor trailers around the corner. 

Mr. Hardy stated there is one thing this does not show as it has not been designed yet is we need to put a connecting building about 20 feet wide so that employees can pass between the buildings. 

 

Mr. Geiss asked Mr. Ted Spencer does this require submission to County for review?

Mr. Spencer stated I feel it is up to the Board, from the discussion of this evening it does not sound like they have any modifications like parking, drainage or traffic.  Unless the Board feels otherwise I do not feel you need to. 

 

Motion              Mr. Geiss asked the Board to entertain a motion to declare the Town of Van Buren Planning Board as lead agency a single agency uncoordinated review for the unlisted action under SEQR for the Done Well Trailer Body Site Plan at 7025 Van Buren Road tax map ID # 057-01-04.5.  This is for the addition of the 7,200 square foot building on this property.  There is no change in use of this property, the proposal meets drainage requirements, and parking is not affected by this addition of the building.  There is no adverse environmental impact with regard to this proposal.  Mr. Crandon moved to accept the motion, seconded by Mr. Knapp.  Motion carried unanimously. 

 

Motion               Mr. Geiss asked the Board to entertain a motion to the approve the Done Well Trailer and Body Site Plan at 7025 Van Buren Road tax map ID # 057-01-04.5.  This is for the addition of the 7,200 square foot building shown on the applicant’s plan that is dated June 22, 2012 with no other revisions with the following comments that applicant will file in the town office by Tuesday by 4 pm a signed and sealed map.  That map will also include a 20 foot connection between the buildings.  Mr. Thomas moved to accept the motion, seconded by Mr. Virginia.  Motion carried unanimously. 

  EARTH ROAD INC. SITE PLAN

533 State Fair Blvd Tax Map ID # 055-08-18.0

 

Motion                Mr. Geiss asked the Board to entertain a motion to table this as there is no one present to address the Board.  Mr. Crandon moved to accept the motion, seconded by Mr. Virginia.  Motion carried unanimously. 

    INFORMATION ONLY 

Michael Wagner

7029 Van Buren Road

Syracuse, NY  13029

 

Mr. Wagner was present to address the Board

 

Mr. Wagner stated we are hoping to, as quickly as possible.

Mr. Wagner stated we would like to add two storage buildings. One of them to my understanding has already been approved by the Board.  I have a signed map. 

Mr. Wagner stated the building has changed from what was approved, it has changed in dimensions but it is smaller and it is not going to be climate controlled. 

Mr. Wagner stated we are also hoping to put up a pole barn as well on the property.  The buildings are both being placed onto what is now a gravel parking lot. 

Mr. Wagner stated one of the buildings is the pole barn, the three sided building.  The other building, I was under the impression that this was already approved.

Mr. Geiss asked what was approved?

Mr. Wagner stated a 70 by 120 building.

Mr. Geiss stated that was the covered storage.

Mr. Wagner stated correct.

Mr. Wagner stated I would like to put instead of that is a 40 by 120 in the same footprint. 

Mr. Geiss asked what are your existing buildings?

Mr. Wagner stated we have three 30 by 120 foot traditional storage buildings.

Mr. Geiss stated you are coming in for a new site plan therefore you need to include all of what you want to do.  You should show all the gravel area that you want on your drawing and show the 100 foot setback from the wetland line also. 

Mr. Geiss asked do you have water in your building?

Mr. Wagner yes we do.

  

Mr. Geiss stated another issue I wanted to discuss is the Earth Road project.

 

Mr. Geiss stated he wants to put some temporary trailers out by the road with no water or sewer hookup.  They are looking at 8 to 9 months of operation. 

Mr. Geiss stated since he has started this he has had some odor complaints. 

   OTHER BUSINESS 

Mr. Geiss stated this is the resolution that was sent by email regarding the park fees. 

This was developed by the attorneys. 

Mr. Geiss stated if you have any comments please bring them back to the next meeting.

  

Motion         Mr. Geiss stated we will have our normal August meeting, also we will move the September meeting to August 27, 2012 at 7:00 pm.  Mr. Crandon moved to accept the motion, seconded by Mr. Knapp.  Motion carried unanimously. 

       

ADJOURNMENT

Motion            Mr. Geiss made the motion to close the meeting. Mr. Crandon moved to accept the motion, seconded by Mr. Lindeqvist.    There was no further discussion.  Motion carried unanimously.  The meeting was adjourned at 8:10 p.m.      Respectfully Submitted,Melissa MacConaghyPlanning Board Secretary